The gearbox is stuck
- Make
- Fiat
- Model
- Panda Factory Service Manual
- Year
- 2003–2012
- Section
- Gear shift › The gearbox is stuck
THE GEARBOX IS STUCK
It remains blocked in one gear with the vehicle stopped, and during acceleration the engine revs increase (the engaged gear is displayed)
| Results of the tests | ||||
| 0 | CONTROL UNIT ERRORS CHECK | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Check that there are no control unit errors. In particular:
| Continue to Step 3 | Presence of error indicated | Continue to Step 1 | |
| 1 | CHECKS ON FAULTS DETECTED | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check the faults according to the See Test 2127I What to do for error in Selespeed control unit | End of diagnosis | Faulty connections | Repair/replace the wiring Continue to Step 2 | |
| 2 | AFTER THE CHECKS ON THE FAULTS DETECTED | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check that the fault is no longer present | End of diagnosis | The fault persists | Continue to Step 3 | |
| 3 | CHECK THE LAYOUT OF THE CLUTCH SENSOR WIRING | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
Check the state of the connections, continuity of the wiring (it is important to pay particular to the layout of the clutch position sensor wiring in the engine compartment: the wire must not be too taut, and it must have sufficient slack) | Continue to Step 4 | There is a fault | Repair/replace the part that is not working Continue to Step 5 | |
| 4 | CARRY OUT CLUTCH PARAMETER CALIBRATION USING THE EXAMINER | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| In active diagnosis carry out the calibration of the clutch parameters through the 'clutch self-calibration enablement' | Continue to Step 5 | The calibration is not successful | Continue to Step 6 | |
| 5 | CHECK THAT THE FAULT IS NO LONGER PRESENT | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check that the fault is no longer present | End of diagnosis | The fault persists | Continue to Step 6 | |
| 6 | THE FAULT PERSISTS | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Contact Technical Service for further information on the problem | End of diagnosis | |||
It remains stuck in one gear and, when the vehicle stops, the engine cuts out and cannot be started up again or it starts again after a few minutes.
Preliminary check: If during engine starting you notice that the starter motor works normally, the problem is caused by other systems (engine management, ABS, fuel pump). Refer to specific charts.
If the starter motor does not turn (after checking its operation and the relevant electrical supply circuit), continue with the next diagnosis chart.
| Results of the tests | ||||
| 0 | CONTROL UNIT ERRORS CHECK | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Check that there are no control unit errors. In particular:
| Continue to Step 4 | Presence of one or more of the errors included in the list | Continue to Step 1 | |
| 1 | CHECKS ON FAULTS DETECTED | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check the faults according to the See Test 2127I What to do for error in Selespeed control unit | End of diagnosis | Connections fault (Clutch sensor, Pump relay, Load relay and/or Selespeed pump) | Repair/replace the wiring Continue to Step 3 | |
| The active diganosis is not successful and there are no faults detected at the wiring (Clutch solenoid valve) | Continue to Step 2 | |||
| Faulty pump relay and/or fuse (Selespeed pump) | Replace the component Continue to Step 3 | |||
| Faults on pump winding (Selespeed pump) | Replace the component Op. 2127C30 Continue to Step 3 | |||
| 2 | AFTER THE SOLENOID VALVE ACTIVE DIAGNOSIS | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| If this step has been reached for the active diagnosis of the clutch solenoid valve, replace it Op. 2127C56and check the operation by carrying out a C.M. | Continue to Step 4 | |||
| 3 | AFTER THE CHECKS ON THE FAULTS DETECTED | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check that the fault is no longer present | End of diagnosis | The fault persists | Continue to Step 4 | |
| 4 | OIL LEVEL CHECK | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check the oil level as described in See Test 2127B OIL LEVEL CHECK | Continue to Step 6 | Level below the Max reference | Top up the oil level Continue to Step 5 | |
| Level above the Max reference | Reduce to the Max level Continue to Step 6 | |||
| 5 | CHECK FOR OIL LEAKS | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check that there are no oil leaks as described in See Test 2127C CHECK FOR OIL LEAKS | Continue to Step 6 | OIl leaks detected | Replace/repair the parts concerned, and top up the oil level Continue to Step 5 | |
| 6 | OIL PRESSURE CHECK | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check the oil pressure as described in See Test 2127D OIL PRESSURE CHECK | Continue to Step 8 | Pressure < 40 bar | Continue to Step 7 | |
| 7 | ELECTRIC PUMP OPERATION CHECK | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check the correct operation of the pump as described in See Test 2127E ELECTRIC PUMP OPERATION CHECK | Continue to Step 8 | Voltage below 11 V | Check the battery Continue to Step 7 | |
| It is not possible to make gear changes from the lever | Activate the 'clutch bleed' service from the Examiner Plus or Smart to activate the pump Continue to Step 8 | |||
| 8 | CHECK THE LAYOUT OF THE CLUTCH SENSOR WIRING | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
Check the state of the connections, continuity of the wiring (it is important to pay particular to the layout of the clutch position sensor wiring in the engine compartment: the wire must not be too taut, and it must have sufficient slack) | Continue to Step 9 | There is a fault | Repair/replace the part that is not working Continue to Step 9 | |
| 9 | CHECK THAT THE FAULT IS NO LONGER PRESENT | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check that the fault is no longer present | End of diagnosis | The fault persists | Contact Technical Service for further information on the problem | |
The vehicle remains with the gearbox stuck in neutral
Some gears can be engaged and then the vehicle is stuck
The gearbox jams after it is attempted to engage reverse gear
Preliminary check: It is advisable to carry out a preliminary check on the battery voltage
| Results of the tests | ||||
| 0 | CONTROL UNIT ERRORS CHECK | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
|---|---|---|---|---|
Check that there are no control unit errors. In particular:
| Continue to Step 5 | Presence of one or more of the errors included in the list | Continue to Step 1 | |
| 1 | CHECKS ON FAULTS DETECTED | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check the faults according to the See Test 2127I What to do for error in Selespeed control unit | Continue to Step 3 | Faulty connections (Clutch sensor, Odd or even gear engagement, Clutch solenoid current, Electromagnetic brake error) | Repair/replace the wiring Continue to Step 3 | |
| Replace the Robotized Gearbox control unit (Microprocessor error 2) | Continue to Step 3 | |||
| The active diagnosis for the solenoid valve is not successful and no faults are detected at the wiring (Odd or even gear engagement and/or Clutch solenoid valve current) | Continue to Step 2 | |||
| There are no faulty connections (Engagement sensor) | Replace the engagement potentiometer and check the correct reading of the position by carrying out a series of gear changes. Continue to Step 3 | |||
| 2 | AFTER THE SOLENOID VALVE ACTIVE DIAGNOSIS | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
If this step has been reached for the active diagnosis of the clutch solenoid valve, replace it Op. 2127C56and check the operation by carrying out a C.M. If this step has been reached for the active diagnosis of the engagement solenoid valve, replace it Op. 2127C52and check the operation | Continue to Step 3 | |||
| 3 | SENSOR/SOLENOID REPLACEMENT | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
If there is an electromagnetic brake error and no faults are detected at the connections/wiring, replace Op. 2127C54and check brake operation If there is a gear engagement sensor error and no faults are detected at the connections/wiring, replace it Op. 2127E42and check that the position reading is correct by carrying out a series of C.M. | Continue to Step 4 | |||
| 4 | AFTER THE CHECKS ON THE FAULTS DETECTED | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check that the fault is no longer present | End of diagnosis | The fault persists | Continue to Step 5 | |
| 5 | CHECK ON BRAKE PEDAL SWITCH | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check that the brake pedal switch is working properly as described in See Test 2127F CHECK ON BRAKE PEDAL SWITCH | Continue to Step 7 | The brake pedal switch is not working properly | Check the state of the connections, the wiring and the switch. Repair/replace the part that is not working Move on toStep 6 | |
| 6 | AFTER THE BRAKE PEDAL SWITCH CHECK | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check that the fault is no longer present | End of diagnosis | The fault persists | Continue to Step 7 | |
| 7 | OIL LEVEL CHECK | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check the oil level as described in See Test 2127B OIL LEVEL CHECK | Continue to Step 9 | Level below the Max reference | Top up the oil level Continue to Step 8 | |
| Level above the Max reference | Reduce to the Max level Continue to Step 9 | |||
| 8 | CHECK FOR OIL LEAKS | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check that there are no oil leaks as described in See Test 2127C CHECK FOR OIL LEAKS | Continue to Step 9 | OIl leaks detected | Replace/repair the parts concerned, and top up the oil level Continue to Step 8 | |
| 9 | OIL PRESSURE CHECK | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check the oil pressure as described in See Test 2127D OIL PRESSURE CHECK | Continue to Step 11 | Pressure < 40 bar | Continue to Step 10 | |
| 10 | ELECTRIC PUMP OPERATION CHECK | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check the correct operation of the pump as described in See Test 2127E ELECTRIC PUMP OPERATION CHECK | Continue to Step 11 | Voltage below 11 V | Check the battery Continue to Step 10 | |
| It is not possible to make gear changes from the lever | Activate the 'clutch bleed' service from the Examiner Plus or Smart to activate the pump Continue to Step 11 | |||
| 11 | CHECK THE LAYOUT OF THE CLUTCH SENSOR WIRING | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
Check the state of the connections, continuity of the wiring (it is important to pay particular to the layout of the clutch position sensor wiring in the engine compartment: the wire must not be too taut, and it must have sufficient slack) | Continue to Step 13 | There is a fault | Repair/replace the part that is not working Continue to Step 12 | |
| 12 | CHECK THAT THE FAULT IS NO LONGER PRESENT | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
Check that the fault is no longer present To check that the fault is no longer present, the battery cage need not be refitted If the problem persists, the next intervention could involve the solenoid valves; it is therefore advisable not to refit the battery cage | End of diagnosis | The fault persists | Continue to Step 13 | |
| 13 | SELF CALIBRATION | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| With the Examiner Plus or Smart, in active diagnosis, start end of Service line self-diagnosis and make sure that the result is successful | Continue to Step 15 | The self-calibration is not successful the first time | Continue to Step 13 | |
| The self-calibration is not successful the second time | Replace the even gear engagement, odd gear engagement Op. 2127C52and selection solenoids Op. 2127C54. Continue to Step 14 | |||
| 14 | NEW SELF-CALIBRATION | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| After replacing the solenoids with the Examiner Plus or Smart, carry out a new end-of-line/Service self-calibration procedure and make sure that the result is positive | End of diagnosis | The self-calibration is not successful | Contact Technical Service for further information on the problem | |
Following a gear change in manual or automatic, the gearbox goes into 5th gear (even with the vehicle stopped)
| Results of the tests | ||||
| 0 | CHECK THE CLUTCH DISC SPEED SENSOR | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| Check the clutch disc speed signal in accordance with See Test 2127A Check on operation of clutch plate speed sensor through road test | Continue to Step 2 | There are problems with the sensor signal | Continue to Step 1 | |
| 1 | CHECK THE STATE OF THE CONNECTIONS | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
Check the state of connections and wiring of the speed sensor. Remember that this sensor is on the gearbox bellhousing near the reversing lights sensor In some cases, when the sensor is dismantled, there may be iron filings deposited on the sensor head | Continue to Step 2 | There are faults detected | Repair/replace the part that is not working | |
| 2 | CHECK THAT THE FAULT IS NO LONGER PRESENT | All OK | Problems met | Operation |
| Check that the fault is no longer present | End of diagnosis | The fault persists | Contact Technical Service for further information on the problem | |
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